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#1 Prabhakar

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 11:55 AM

I was interested in taking a Tuning box for my Punto 90hp.
I found 5 different tuning chips, a couple of remapping companies.
Every 1 claiming that their product is the best.

However I was not sure which 1 to take, how are the gains, what is the effect on Mileage, Long term effects on engine, etc.
So too many questions.
Then tried to google for answers.
However I found very little info on the same.
I did not find any Dyno charts for any of the products.
So I contacted all these people & told them that I wanted to test them thoroughly.
I told them that we'll be testing them & comparing.

The comparison is to check the

  • Drivability
  • Mileage
  • Performance
  • In-gear Acceleration
  • Turbo Lag
  • Dyno Tests
  • Acceleration figures 0-10,20...max
  • Refinement
  • Pollution - Figures
  • Overall Feel


Cars we are using for the comparison are -

  • Punto 90hp
  • Punto 75hp
  • Indica Vista Quadrajet
  • Linea Multijet 90/ Indigo Manza Quadrajet 90

Already I received a couple of boxes.
Testing started on some of the parameters.
Yet to receive the remaining boxes so that the V-box & dyno tests can be started.
Some of the big players are actually not Comfortable in the complete test - reasons are obvious.
Yet we'll try to source them from other means for this comparison.

This article after completion will be the most exhaustive & comprehensive testing on Tuning boxes available currently in India.
This will be available in the Motoroids web as well as some other Magazines.
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Posted 24 January 2011 - 01:54 PM

Prabhakar said:

I was interested in taking a Tuning box for my Punto 90hp.

This article after completion will be the most exhaustive & comprehensive testing on Tuning boxes available currently in India.
This will be available in the Motoroids web as well as some other Magazines.

Awesome Sir. I hope that these test can also be taken granted for the WagonR. Awaiting on how this turns out. :censored:
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Posted 24 January 2011 - 02:31 PM

great stuff Prabhakar. Infact was speaking to my friend about this on the afternoon and this would be of great help!

waiting for the results!

what are the boxes involved in the test?
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Posted 24 January 2011 - 03:18 PM

The Wagon-R is a Petrol car.
This test is for Turbo Diesels with CRDI.

For Wagon-R it does not hold.
However we can get piggy backs for any ECU driven engines.
Petrol cars need to wait as this test alone may take almost 2 months to complete.
Once it is done will try to get the Petrol car performance tools tested.

The list of tuning boxes in comparison are :

  • Pete's
  • Tunit
  • Unichip
  • Race Dynamics
  • Race Chip
  • Kiirus


The first 5 are piggy back tuning boxes.
The Last 1 is a remapping company.

Received Pete's Box.
Currently its being tested for few of the parameters.
Will post the results once done.

Some more boxes are on the way.
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Posted 24 January 2011 - 03:37 PM

Prabhakar said:

The Wagon-R is a Petrol car.
This test is for Turbo Diesels with CRDI.

For Wagon-R it does not hold.

DANG. :censored:
Guess i am gonna have to wait out this one. anyways, good initiative. These test results shall surely help a lot of people.
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Posted 25 January 2011 - 02:08 PM

The Pete's Box is a small Tuning box.
It is of the size of a cordless phone.
Fits in under 10 minutes of time.
It slots between the ECU & the CRDI control unit.
Quality of the wiring is good.

Now the most important part -  How does the vehicle feel after the installation??

The Answer - Its terrific.
The increase in the power is evident.
The Punto 90 has a tendency to do wheel spins when shifting to second gear.
Now it spins in third gear also.
The vehicle becomes lot quicker off the block.

We tried it on the Vista Quadrajet also.
Even in the less powerful engine it shows the effect.
The 0-60 comes a second quicker than usual.
Even the run to the top speed is lot quicker.
Actual figures will take time.
Till then a synopsis.

Drivability - Lot Better then before
Mileage -  dropped by 3kmpl under flat out driving, economy mode showed a marginal increase in 0.3kmpl
Performance - Good improvement - actual figures - later
In-gear Acceleration - terrific improvement - actual figures - later
Turbo Lag - Reduced by a good margin
Dyno Tests - will take time
Acceleration figures 0-10,20...max - will take time
Refinement - a minor drop - neglegible
Pollution - Figures - will take some time
Overall Feel - this is the last thing to said here.

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Posted 25 January 2011 - 02:18 PM

Prabhakar said:


Drivability - Lot Better then before
Mileage -  dropped by 3kmpl under flat out driving, economy mode showed a marginal increase in 0.3kmpl
Performance - Good improvement - actual figures - later
In-gear Acceleration - terrific improvement - actual figures - later
Turbo Lag - Reduced by a good margin
Dyno Tests - will take time
Acceleration figures 0-10,20...max - will take time
Refinement - a minor drop - neglegible
Pollution - Figures - will take some time
Overall Feel - this is the last thing to said here.

Awesome reporting. Liked the way you categorized it. stick to this Format for later tests too, as it will aid in making a side-by-side comparison chart.
Again Awesome work. Keep up the Good Work. :o
(although it aint gonna help me one bit :) )
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Posted 25 January 2011 - 02:45 PM

great work there mate.. this will answer a lot of diesel owner questions!

But installing all these kits will void warranty ain't it?
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Posted 25 January 2011 - 05:41 PM

Silver Phantom said:

Awesome reporting. Liked the way you categorized it. stick to this Format for later tests too, as it will aid in making a side-by-side comparison chart.
Again Awesome work. Keep up the Good Work. ;)
(although it aint gonna help me one bit :frusty: )

Thanks Chaitanya!!
This is the format I prepared for all the Boxes.
There will be a side by side comparison, Rankings in all these parameters also.
It'll be the same for the Re-mappings also.
Don't worry I'll get the test of Petrols done at the earliest.

I just need a good Sponsor for all these.


razorBlades said:

great work there mate.. this will answer a lot of diesel owner questions!

But installing all these kits will void warranty ain't it?

Thanks!!
Installing these kits will Void the warranty if you take these boxes to the service station.
These are plug & play units.
So You can take it off when taking it for service.
They are non detectable after removal.
They'll not leave any trace.
Only the re-mappings are a problem.


You can view the Pete's Box in my album.

The Link -

http://motoroids.com...ning-boxes.html
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Posted 26 January 2011 - 12:36 PM

:frusty:
Most Probably in the next 24hours I may be getting the first sponsor for the Comparison test.;)
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Posted 27 January 2011 - 09:48 PM

The second of the Tuning Boxes has arrived.
Race chip from Germany Via Chennai ( Haute Car Zone ) is the one now.
Will be installing it now and the testing will start on it.

You can see it in my Album Tuning Boxes.
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Posted 28 January 2011 - 03:26 PM

Prabhakar said:

The second of the Tuning Boxes has arrived.
Race chip from Germany Via Chennai ( Haute Car Zone ) is the one now.
Will be installing it now and the testing will start on it.

You can see it in my Album Tuning Boxes.

amazing! waiting for the results! :cheer2:
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Posted 30 January 2011 - 04:11 PM

Tested the Race chip for economy.
Under pure economy mode it gave a surprise.
The vehicle delivered 0.7kmpl higher mileage :)
Economy mode is a mix of city & highway riding and the maximum speed is 80kmph.
Gear shifts at under 2000rpm.

In other words this is the best economy possible with the Race chip.
Will be checking the Flat out mode now.
The other parameters will also be reported at the same time.

The official word from the sponsor will be coming tomorrow.
Also another comparo is being added as a Side dish for the main course.
( It includes some things for the petrol heads :) )
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Posted 05 February 2011 - 07:22 PM

Prabhakar said:

Tested the Race chip for economy.
Under pure economy mode it gave a surprise.
The vehicle delivered 0.7kmpl higher mileage :)
Economy mode is a mix of city & highway riding and the maximum speed is 80kmph.
Gear shifts at under 2000rpm.

In other words this is the best economy possible with the Race chip.
Will be checking the Flat out mode now.
The other parameters will also be reported at the same time.

The official word from the sponsor will be coming tomorrow.
Also another comparo is being added as a Side dish for the main course.
( It includes some things for the petrol heads :gossip: )

Tested race chip for Flat out performance.
Seems that the chip is set more towards economy & a 0.9kmpl drop in mileage is noticed.
Extreme conditions with gear shifts after 4500 rpm yielded this result.
Performance is not on par with the Pete's ( Seems due to the economy mode settings).
Contacted the Race chip help line & they are helping me out with new settings ( I'll be making them with their help on phone ).
Need to redo the whole test on the Race chip again.
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Posted 06 February 2011 - 01:47 PM

The only negative which I recall after using the 'boxes are black smoke belching out after pro-longed use.

How is the 90HP running?(stock) Did you go in for stickier tires?

Diesels truly rock post you snick into 5th and are in turbo mode.
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